Profanity or Not? HELP!!!!!

by David Nick on April 20, 2006 · 48 comments

I’m stuck in a quandary.

Since being married my wife and I have had an ongoing debate about certain words which in my opinion are not curse words.

We all know about the 7 words you never say on TV or Radio. They are quite profane, so let’s not get into that, but I frequently can be heard saying two words that prompt my wife to exclaim STOP SWEARING!!!!! and they are:

1)Damn.
2)Hell.

No, I am not kidding here. I have used “damn” in poetic phrases such as “damn it” or “I’ll be damned” or i’ll hear some poli-pundit-liberal spouting off at the alter of euphorianism and tell him or her to “go to hell”. (Which is why my wife doesn’t like me watching political shows with her), and I have occaisionally been known to toss out a few “damn it all to hell” for the double play.

Am I way off base here? Have I stepped into a twilight zone episode? Or is this truly a terrible form of the english language?

Granted, my wife was a Catholic 20 years ago, and perhaps some of that has come from those roots, but there are worse things to say out there and since I do not typically use profane language (as I think it reflects on a lack of vocabulary prowess) I am not seeing her side of this.

Help me out people! What do I do?

{ 48 comments }

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Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

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Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

3

Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

4

Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

5

Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

6

Eric Coleman 04.20.06 at 2:35 am

erm… we argue over words too….

I normally consider the following ok:

bitch
ass
shit
damn
hell

Fine…. not sure if these are borderlines or not… but then again, look at it another way ;)

bitch is a female dog, ass is a body part, shit is a by-product of food intake, damn.. well, not sure, and hell is a place ;)

So, all are good by me ;) Then again, im much more “profane” that you seem to be…. Not sure how it happened, guess I picked i tup working outside for a paving company full time for several years ;)

7

Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

8

Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

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Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

10

Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

11

Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

12

Stacie 04.20.06 at 9:11 am

I think that there are curse words - damn, shit, ass - then there are reall bad curse words - F— B—- C—. Alot depends on the context. Saying damn when you hit your finger with a hammer isn’t too bad. Saying it in everyday conversation can get a little annoying.

13

Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

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Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

15

Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

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Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

17

Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

18

Aaron Brazell 04.20.06 at 10:58 am

Well, I use some profanity some times. I try not to use it much online (particularly on my blogs) as it can affect advertising, but mostly if done in excess.

19

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

20

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

21

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

22

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

23

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

24

paige 04.20.06 at 12:02 pm

Damn? Really?

I must never meet her, she wouldn’t be able to handle much time with my potty mouth.

25

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

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Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

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Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

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Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

29

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

30

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 1:17 pm

“Help me out people! What do I do?”

Hmm… maybe not talk like that around her? I know, I know… that’s crazy talk! ;)

But seriously, would it really hurt you to not use those words if it bugs her so much?

31

David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

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David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

33

David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

34

David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

35

David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

36

David Nick 04.20.06 at 3:54 pm

You have a point Travis. I could simply acquiesce, quietly keeping my vulgarity from her ear shot. Things would be normal, my wife could therefore go on and think her hubby is a man of compromise.

Does it then make me a heel if I decide that I must have a small breakdown in etiquette and toss a couple of “D” or “H” bombs out there?

Don’t kid yourself, she’s a great woman and I would never put down her style of beliefs despite me throwing it under the blog-o-scope for extensive examination.

Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?

Marriage after all is about losing the “self” interests and embracing the “we” interests, but does that mean giving up your identity?

37

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

38

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

39

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

40

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

41

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

42

Travis Seitler 04.20.06 at 4:20 pm

“Is it that selfish of me to have my personal beliefs and use them?”

I guess this is the model I’m driven by:

“Am I not free? …nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. For though I am free from all, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win more of them. [...] I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some. I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings.” — 1 Corinthians 9:1,12,19,22-23 (excerpts) ESV

See, the role we husbands have been given in this cosmic play called “marriage” is that of Jesus Christ, loving our wives “as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.” (Ephesians 5:25-27, ESV) Because of that, our primary job as husbands is to “lay down our lives” for our wives.

Losing self interest does not mean giving up your identity; rather, it is only when you “take the form of a servant” that you gain an identity worth having.

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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A. J. 04.20.06 at 6:43 pm

If she was upset about more vivid, graphic language that’s one thing…but “damn” and “hell”? - that’s ridiculous. What does she want you to say, “gosh darn it, golly gee?”

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