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	<title>Comments on: Firestoker at DemoCamp 11 &#8211; Addressing My Critics</title>
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		<title>By: socialwrite.com &#187; Mark Evans at the TVG Breakfast</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-40454</link>
		<dc:creator>socialwrite.com &#187; Mark Evans at the TVG Breakfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark gave a talk this morning at breakfast on the differences between running a startup now and during the early 2000&#8217;s and the original .com bubble. Mark is now the Vice President of Operations for b5media. b5 is an easy poster child for the current state of startups, they are easy to like guys (despite an uneducated and oddly pompous haranguing one of their employees thought we needed - Jeremy is so easy to like that I feel like I actually know the guy, we&#8217;ve only met once. Some sort of east coast brotherhood I think.). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark gave a talk this morning at breakfast on the differences between running a startup now and during the early 2000&#8217;s and the original .com bubble. Mark is now the Vice President of Operations for b5media. b5 is an easy poster child for the current state of startups, they are easy to like guys (despite an uneducated and oddly pompous haranguing one of their employees thought we needed &#8211; Jeremy is so easy to like that I feel like I actually know the guy, we&#8217;ve only met once. Some sort of east coast brotherhood I think.). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-236640</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.&lt;br&gt;If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If everyone was a &quot;cool&quot; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.<br />If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.</p>
<p>If everyone was a &#8220;cool&#8221; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-237665</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.&lt;br&gt;If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If everyone was a &quot;cool&quot; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.<br />If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.</p>
<p>If everyone was a &#8220;cool&#8221; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-35564</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.
If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.

If everyone was a &quot;cool&quot; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criticism is much better than no comment at all.<br />
If someone constructively criticises something, they have taken the time to evaluate what you have to offer.</p>
<p>If everyone was a &#8220;cool&#8221; groupie, web applications would never have an incentive to do anything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-236639</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#039;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#039;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#039;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#8217;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#8217;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#8217;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-237664</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#039;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#039;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#039;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#8217;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#8217;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#8217;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-34706</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#039;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#039;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#039;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will do, Thomas. Apparently I&#8217;ll be in Toronto fairly regularly since that&#8217;s where b5 is HQed. Next time won&#8217;t eb until sometime in 2007 though.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Purves</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-236638</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Purves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for you comments Aaron!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#039;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business &lt;i&gt;outside&lt;/i&gt; of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#039;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#039;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild - though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#039;s still a lot more to come.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#039;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#039;re excited that you and others who&#039;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#039;re trying to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#039;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas Purves&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Co-founder, CEO Firestoker&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firestoker.com&quot;&gt;http://firestoker.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thomaspurves.com&quot;&gt;http://thomaspurves.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for you comments Aaron!</p>
<p>to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#8217;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business <i>outside</i> of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.</p>
<p>But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#8217;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#8217;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild &#8211; though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#8217;s still a lot more to come.</p>
<p>So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#8217;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#8217;re excited that you and others who&#8217;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
<p>And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get</p>
<p>Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team</p>
<p>(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#8217;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)</p>
<p>Thomas Purves</p>
<p>Co-founder, CEO Firestoker<br /><a href="http://firestoker.com">http://firestoker.com</a><br /><a href="http://thomaspurves.com">http://thomaspurves.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Purves</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-237663</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Purves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for you comments Aaron!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#039;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business &lt;i&gt;outside&lt;/i&gt; of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#039;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#039;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild - though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#039;s still a lot more to come.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#039;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#039;re excited that you and others who&#039;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#039;re trying to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#039;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thomas Purves&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Co-founder, CEO Firestoker&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firestoker.com&quot;&gt;http://firestoker.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thomaspurves.com&quot;&gt;http://thomaspurves.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for you comments Aaron!</p>
<p>to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#8217;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business <i>outside</i> of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.</p>
<p>But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#8217;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#8217;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild &#8211; though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#8217;s still a lot more to come.</p>
<p>So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#8217;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#8217;re excited that you and others who&#8217;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
<p>And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get</p>
<p>Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team</p>
<p>(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#8217;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)</p>
<p>Thomas Purves</p>
<p>Co-founder, CEO Firestoker<br /><a href="http://firestoker.com">http://firestoker.com</a><br /><a href="http://thomaspurves.com">http://thomaspurves.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Purves</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2006/11/24/firestoker-at-democamp-11-addressing-my-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-34700</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Purves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for you comments Aaron!

to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#039;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business &lt;i&gt;outside&lt;/i&gt; of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.

But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#039;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.

We&#039;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#039;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild - though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#039;s still a lot more to come.

So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#039;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#039;re excited that you and others who&#039;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#039;re trying to do.

And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get

Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team

(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#039;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)

Thomas Purves

Co-founder, CEO Firestoker
http://firestoker.com
http://thomaspurves.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for you comments Aaron!</p>
<p>to someone like yourself (and other campers) with long experience in blogging and other web2.0 stuff, nothing we&#8217;re doing should be tremendously surprising. What should only be surprising to all of us, however, is how all these tools like blogging, social media and web2.0-ish media that are so clearly useful and familiar to us have still yet to penetrate organizations and business <i>outside</i> of our world of web2.0 communities. We know that the potential is there for tools like these to help alleviate bureaucracy, make better/faster decisions and generally make large organizations more human.</p>
<p>But to get there the tools themselves still need more work and organizations need help too to manage change and it&#8217;s in these combined challenges that we specialize in.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been doing this for almost 3 years now and even working with some (previously) very traditionally-minded organizations. And all that experience we&#8217;ve now been putting in to the design of our newest rebuild &#8211; though the build we showed was only a matter of weeks into development. Of course like new parents we were/are fiercely proud of even these early ultrasounds and anxious to show the world â€“ even though there&#8217;s still a lot more to come.</p>
<p>So from the pure tech perspective, you could be right. Maybe it was too early to introduce ourselves at DemoCamp or, this time out, maybe we just didn&#8217;t explain ourselves so good (or both could be true!). Nonetheless we absolutely welcome your commentary. We&#8217;re excited that you and others who&#8217;ve written share our passion for the ultimate potential of what we&#8217;re trying to do.</p>
<p>And this stage we are eager for all the criticism and feedback we can get</p>
<p>Cheers and continued best of luck to all of you on the B5 team</p>
<p>(and next time you are in town, drop us a line, we&#8217;d love to grab a beer and talk some more)</p>
<p>Thomas Purves</p>
<p>Co-founder, CEO Firestoker<br />
<a href="http://firestoker.com" >http://firestoker.com</a><br />
<a href="http://thomaspurves.com" >http://thomaspurves.com</a></p>
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