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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that myspace will die, and facebook will takeover unless it makes some fairly major changes. The average user should never be allowed to have such freedom in styling their profiles. I can&#039;t even read most of my friend&#039;s pages as they are so jumbled, or have been infected by spam design sites code.

From the ease of use point of view facebook is light years ahead, they regularly add new features and seem to know what they are doing. It will be interesting to see how it fairs in the long run. Facebook really shines when you are at college/university seeing what friends are up to etc. I do worry sometimes just how easy it is for people who are my &#039;freinds&#039; can see about what I am up to.   I guess you just have to be careful who you accept. The picture tagging feature is great for finding out what happened after a messy night out!

Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that myspace will die, and facebook will takeover unless it makes some fairly major changes. The average user should never be allowed to have such freedom in styling their profiles. I can&#8217;t even read most of my friend&#8217;s pages as they are so jumbled, or have been infected by spam design sites code.</p>
<p>From the ease of use point of view facebook is light years ahead, they regularly add new features and seem to know what they are doing. It will be interesting to see how it fairs in the long run. Facebook really shines when you are at college/university seeing what friends are up to etc. I do worry sometimes just how easy it is for people who are my &#8216;freinds&#8217; can see about what I am up to.   I guess you just have to be careful who you accept. The picture tagging feature is great for finding out what happened after a messy night out!</p>
<p>Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments and discussion!

I agree with many but I think you&#039;ve said it DBL.

I was sick of getting invites to all of these social sites - there seemed to be no end - until I just stopped joining.

Well finally after hearing about it so much, I had to check out Facebook, and found I was somewhat addicted for a week or so. Now after a few months I have it under control.  I check it for a few minutes every couple days - and am excited to catch up with old friends and classmates.  I&#039;m in the 30-35 age range and I find it very easy and enjoyable to use.

I agree with DBL&#039;s take on MySpace - I just never could get into it  - it was just everyone&#039;s ad page - hard to read, just plain ugly at times... and very SPAMMY!!

I think Facebook has a long way to go before it disappears but yeah, for now it&#039;s the most popular and appealing of the two. Of course there will be more - the popular ones will find new ways to avoid spam, corporate ads and the like...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments and discussion!</p>
<p>I agree with many but I think you&#8217;ve said it DBL.</p>
<p>I was sick of getting invites to all of these social sites &#8211; there seemed to be no end &#8211; until I just stopped joining.</p>
<p>Well finally after hearing about it so much, I had to check out Facebook, and found I was somewhat addicted for a week or so. Now after a few months I have it under control.  I check it for a few minutes every couple days &#8211; and am excited to catch up with old friends and classmates.  I&#8217;m in the 30-35 age range and I find it very easy and enjoyable to use.</p>
<p>I agree with DBL&#8217;s take on MySpace &#8211; I just never could get into it  &#8211; it was just everyone&#8217;s ad page &#8211; hard to read, just plain ugly at times&#8230; and very SPAMMY!!</p>
<p>I think Facebook has a long way to go before it disappears but yeah, for now it&#8217;s the most popular and appealing of the two. Of course there will be more &#8211; the popular ones will find new ways to avoid spam, corporate ads and the like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DBL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see any &quot;veiled insults&quot; at all in Kevin&#039;s comment. I did however see a claim that &quot;to a lot of people that donâ€™t know any better MySpace is the web&quot; -- which is simply a ridiculous claim on its face. Do these people not use webmail? Do they not use YouTube? Don&#039;t they see comments there? Is MySpace their Google, too?

Come on, this is total nonsense. Yes, there is a technological divide of understanding between the newbies and the elites, but to claim that many of the newbies were somehow born directly into MySpace without learning *anything* about the surrounding web culture, is obviously an argument from somebody with an axe to grind.

Even the most computer-unsavvy people I know, who just do email and light surfing, know what &#039;blog&#039; is. And these people are much less computer-savvy than your average MySpace user. They don&#039;t do web comments -- they barely even do email. But they aren&#039;t idiots. They know what web comments and blogs are, even if they don&#039;t know what RSS is.

So, sorry Kevin -- but it just beggars belief that &quot;a lot&quot; of MySpace users are as stupid as you claim.

Anyway, more to the point of this I definitely prefer Facebook, but it has nothing to do with what I can or can&#039;t put on my profile. It has to do with what other people can&#039;t put on theirs. After all, a social networking site is useless if you don&#039;t actually look at your friends&#039; pages and when they are all freeform ugly eyesores that look like somebody did with HTML what a 2-year-old does with crayons. (A two year old has only two rules: use everything offered. And draw it as big as your arm can make it.)

I *have* to look at my friend&#039;s pages on a social site. This exercise is a much, MUCH more pleasant exercise on Facebook than on MySpace.

And it&#039;s as simple as that. MySpace isn&#039;t really social networking: it&#039;s a place for people to advertise their personal styles. It&#039;s a billboard. If you act like a MySpace page in the local pub they&#039;ll treat you like a salesman. If you act like a Facebook profile in the local pub you would blend right in. Facebook has the power of simplicity: it&#039;s just a place to interact with your friends -- emphasis on &#039;interaction&#039; -- there is no design, there is no (well a lot less anyway) self-promotion -- just show up, just like in real life. MySpace is overwrought and missed the mark. Facebook hit it dead centre.

But I don&#039;t agree that Facebook Platform is necessarily such a great thing. A lot of the apps are quite good, but quite a few also seem to be angling to turn Facebook into MySpace. There are even a couple of developers now trying to make auto-play music work on Facebook profiles -- I seriously hope they are blocked from doing this. The point is not that the people who want it, want it. The point is that then their friends have to listen to it again ... and again ... and again ... Facebook should remember that the people with value invested in a profile are not just the creator but all of the visitors to that page. Therefore, when you say something like, &#039;If that&#039;s what they want on their profiles, they should have it&#039; -- then you&#039;ve just forgot to consult over 90% of the people with a stake in that decision. If I start to get autoplaying music on Facebook pages, in my view, it&#039;s the beginning of the end, Facebook will follow MySpace into this theoretical death to be followed by another service that *really* gets it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see any &#8220;veiled insults&#8221; at all in Kevin&#8217;s comment. I did however see a claim that &#8220;to a lot of people that donâ€™t know any better MySpace is the web&#8221; &#8212; which is simply a ridiculous claim on its face. Do these people not use webmail? Do they not use YouTube? Don&#8217;t they see comments there? Is MySpace their Google, too?</p>
<p>Come on, this is total nonsense. Yes, there is a technological divide of understanding between the newbies and the elites, but to claim that many of the newbies were somehow born directly into MySpace without learning *anything* about the surrounding web culture, is obviously an argument from somebody with an axe to grind.</p>
<p>Even the most computer-unsavvy people I know, who just do email and light surfing, know what &#8216;blog&#8217; is. And these people are much less computer-savvy than your average MySpace user. They don&#8217;t do web comments &#8212; they barely even do email. But they aren&#8217;t idiots. They know what web comments and blogs are, even if they don&#8217;t know what RSS is.</p>
<p>So, sorry Kevin &#8212; but it just beggars belief that &#8220;a lot&#8221; of MySpace users are as stupid as you claim.</p>
<p>Anyway, more to the point of this I definitely prefer Facebook, but it has nothing to do with what I can or can&#8217;t put on my profile. It has to do with what other people can&#8217;t put on theirs. After all, a social networking site is useless if you don&#8217;t actually look at your friends&#8217; pages and when they are all freeform ugly eyesores that look like somebody did with HTML what a 2-year-old does with crayons. (A two year old has only two rules: use everything offered. And draw it as big as your arm can make it.)</p>
<p>I *have* to look at my friend&#8217;s pages on a social site. This exercise is a much, MUCH more pleasant exercise on Facebook than on MySpace.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s as simple as that. MySpace isn&#8217;t really social networking: it&#8217;s a place for people to advertise their personal styles. It&#8217;s a billboard. If you act like a MySpace page in the local pub they&#8217;ll treat you like a salesman. If you act like a Facebook profile in the local pub you would blend right in. Facebook has the power of simplicity: it&#8217;s just a place to interact with your friends &#8212; emphasis on &#8216;interaction&#8217; &#8212; there is no design, there is no (well a lot less anyway) self-promotion &#8212; just show up, just like in real life. MySpace is overwrought and missed the mark. Facebook hit it dead centre.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t agree that Facebook Platform is necessarily such a great thing. A lot of the apps are quite good, but quite a few also seem to be angling to turn Facebook into MySpace. There are even a couple of developers now trying to make auto-play music work on Facebook profiles &#8212; I seriously hope they are blocked from doing this. The point is not that the people who want it, want it. The point is that then their friends have to listen to it again &#8230; and again &#8230; and again &#8230; Facebook should remember that the people with value invested in a profile are not just the creator but all of the visitors to that page. Therefore, when you say something like, &#8216;If that&#8217;s what they want on their profiles, they should have it&#8217; &#8212; then you&#8217;ve just forgot to consult over 90% of the people with a stake in that decision. If I start to get autoplaying music on Facebook pages, in my view, it&#8217;s the beginning of the end, Facebook will follow MySpace into this theoretical death to be followed by another service that *really* gets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off kudos to Aaron for writing this article comparing Facebook to MySpace using Sun-Tzu&#039;s Art of War. The Art of War truly is the greatest book on strategy to date and it&#039;s also one of the oldest. It was designed for war strategy but applies to all aspects of life such as business. After all business is just like war. Aaron, this is one of the best business articles I have read in sometime, great writing!

Kevin and other supporters of MySpace. I have to disagree with some of your comments. MySpace is dying fast. I work for a research company and we have an area of business strictly for youth research and youth marketing. Personally, I work with influencing youth (i.e. Cool Kids, well-networked, etc.) If you&#039;re not on facebook then you likely aren&#039;t on the internet much if at all. No one talks about MySpace in any of our surveys and focus groups. Hi5 still gets more talked about than MySpace but even that is dead. The most common comments I hear from youth and young adults not on facebook...&quot;I keep getting weekly email requests from all friends to get on facebook.&quot; &quot;Some of my friends even send me personal emails encouraging me to join.&quot; 

All one has to do is observe youth &amp; young adults in public internet settings such as high schools, universities, and internet cafe&#039;s and you&#039;ll see first hand how popular it is. And now facebook has capitalized on incorporating cell phone technology. You can observe youth and young adults constantly getting text message updates that someone sent them a facebook message or tagged someone in a photo. 

I see people in their workplaces, highschools and universities all checking facebook, some even more religiously than their hotmail, gmail, or yahoo email accounts. 

There is a new language/slang for facebook emphasising the strength of their brand: 
&quot;Don&#039;t email me, facebook me.&quot; 
&quot;I&#039;ll send you a party invite on facebook.&quot;

Now about the design of facebook for users. Most users prefer the design options of facebook over mypace. Yes myspace can do more but more is not better. People prefer simple over flashy. Look at the iPod. It&#039;s very simple and easy to use with almost no flash. Facebook is more user friendly to the average user as it is simpler. This new F8 platform thing may change that (i.e. complicate things). We&#039;ll just have to see. 

The challenge facebook has is creating a sustainable revenue stream but I think facebook has a few things in mind including this new f8 platform. Not too sure how it&#039;ll work out though because most people are not signing up for all of the applications. Some of the users who do sign up for the various new facebook applications simply do so because they are sick of getting requests for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off kudos to Aaron for writing this article comparing Facebook to MySpace using Sun-Tzu&#8217;s Art of War. The Art of War truly is the greatest book on strategy to date and it&#8217;s also one of the oldest. It was designed for war strategy but applies to all aspects of life such as business. After all business is just like war. Aaron, this is one of the best business articles I have read in sometime, great writing!</p>
<p>Kevin and other supporters of MySpace. I have to disagree with some of your comments. MySpace is dying fast. I work for a research company and we have an area of business strictly for youth research and youth marketing. Personally, I work with influencing youth (i.e. Cool Kids, well-networked, etc.) If you&#8217;re not on facebook then you likely aren&#8217;t on the internet much if at all. No one talks about MySpace in any of our surveys and focus groups. Hi5 still gets more talked about than MySpace but even that is dead. The most common comments I hear from youth and young adults not on facebook&#8230;&#8221;I keep getting weekly email requests from all friends to get on facebook.&#8221; &#8220;Some of my friends even send me personal emails encouraging me to join.&#8221; </p>
<p>All one has to do is observe youth &amp; young adults in public internet settings such as high schools, universities, and internet cafe&#8217;s and you&#8217;ll see first hand how popular it is. And now facebook has capitalized on incorporating cell phone technology. You can observe youth and young adults constantly getting text message updates that someone sent them a facebook message or tagged someone in a photo. </p>
<p>I see people in their workplaces, highschools and universities all checking facebook, some even more religiously than their hotmail, gmail, or yahoo email accounts. </p>
<p>There is a new language/slang for facebook emphasising the strength of their brand:<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t email me, facebook me.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;ll send you a party invite on facebook.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now about the design of facebook for users. Most users prefer the design options of facebook over mypace. Yes myspace can do more but more is not better. People prefer simple over flashy. Look at the iPod. It&#8217;s very simple and easy to use with almost no flash. Facebook is more user friendly to the average user as it is simpler. This new F8 platform thing may change that (i.e. complicate things). We&#8217;ll just have to see. </p>
<p>The challenge facebook has is creating a sustainable revenue stream but I think facebook has a few things in mind including this new f8 platform. Not too sure how it&#8217;ll work out though because most people are not signing up for all of the applications. Some of the users who do sign up for the various new facebook applications simply do so because they are sick of getting requests for it.</p>
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		<title>By: TMx</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went through this dilemma of joining either Facebook or MySpace a few months back - I&#039;ve been a late adopter to this social media thing. More of my friends and acquaintances (aged 25-40, educated, professional, urban) were joining Facebook and telling me what I was missing. Now it&#039;s like a todal wave - each day I get a new friend request - from someone I KNOW (even if it&#039;s from a long time ago). Compare this with MySpace. I took one look at it&#039;s crass interface, coupled with its bad offline rep made the decision easy. It was like being invited to go to a new hip pub (re: emphasis on real conversation with people you know) vs. going to the touristy, mega dance club (loud, crass and disconnected). There&#039;s an exclusiveness to Facebook (despite it&#039;s opening up) that MySpace doesn&#039;t get. It reflects how people prefer to socialize - small networks of known people who then expand out gradually. MySpace is dying. You can smell it in the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through this dilemma of joining either Facebook or MySpace a few months back &#8211; I&#8217;ve been a late adopter to this social media thing. More of my friends and acquaintances (aged 25-40, educated, professional, urban) were joining Facebook and telling me what I was missing. Now it&#8217;s like a todal wave &#8211; each day I get a new friend request &#8211; from someone I KNOW (even if it&#8217;s from a long time ago). Compare this with MySpace. I took one look at it&#8217;s crass interface, coupled with its bad offline rep made the decision easy. It was like being invited to go to a new hip pub (re: emphasis on real conversation with people you know) vs. going to the touristy, mega dance club (loud, crass and disconnected). There&#8217;s an exclusiveness to Facebook (despite it&#8217;s opening up) that MySpace doesn&#8217;t get. It reflects how people prefer to socialize &#8211; small networks of known people who then expand out gradually. MySpace is dying. You can smell it in the air.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be cool if you guys recorded a 1 minute video explaining your choice of myspace or facebook and email it to me. If I get enough, I&#039;ll post a video. Total democracy. No one is telling you what to say. Just tell me which one and why and let&#039;s see where the dice fall. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be cool if you guys recorded a 1 minute video explaining your choice of myspace or facebook and email it to me. If I get enough, I&#8217;ll post a video. Total democracy. No one is telling you what to say. Just tell me which one and why and let&#8217;s see where the dice fall. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Goddess Carlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goddess Carlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recently joined facebook and I love it. I don&#039;t visit very often, but it is a fantastic site. I&#039;ve even found someone I used to go to school with which is pretty cool. Myspace, eh. I&#039;ve never seen the attraction to it or how people can spend hours on it but I guess I understand it more now. I have always been on the web, but I can see how people who don&#039;t know anything about technology or the web can make something out of myspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recently joined facebook and I love it. I don&#8217;t visit very often, but it is a fantastic site. I&#8217;ve even found someone I used to go to school with which is pretty cool. Myspace, eh. I&#8217;ve never seen the attraction to it or how people can spend hours on it but I guess I understand it more now. I have always been on the web, but I can see how people who don&#8217;t know anything about technology or the web can make something out of myspace.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Prest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Prest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if nothing else, this has saved me a job this afternoon. I was toying with the idea of signing up with MySpace to help publicise my blog, having waded through the same procedure with three other social networks but now I think I&#039;ll leave it and watch sme horseracing.

The only thing I&#039;m uneasy about at Facebook is the &#039;random play&#039; option in the relationships section. What the hell is that all about?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if nothing else, this has saved me a job this afternoon. I was toying with the idea of signing up with MySpace to help publicise my blog, having waded through the same procedure with three other social networks but now I think I&#8217;ll leave it and watch sme horseracing.</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;m uneasy about at Facebook is the &#8216;random play&#8217; option in the relationships section. What the hell is that all about?!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 10:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been on MySpace for less than a year, but find myself checking it nearly daily.  I, more recently, joined Facebook and haven&#039;t done much with it.  My sister told me about Facebook and was really excited when I joined.  1 message sent, that&#039;s it.  I tried to join her college group as I know a lot of people with whom she goes to school.  I did not have a valid e-mail address, so I could not join.  I tried my company e-mail address, again no go.  I am sure my company e-mail address is correct.  Anyway, the ease of use with MySpace makes it much more appealing to me at present.  As more people I know grow passionate about Facebook, I may migrate.  As for networking, I think web 2.0 is about as social as it gets and LinkedIn for business is great.

Until next time...

Keith Porterfield

a Student of Sales</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been on MySpace for less than a year, but find myself checking it nearly daily.  I, more recently, joined Facebook and haven&#8217;t done much with it.  My sister told me about Facebook and was really excited when I joined.  1 message sent, that&#8217;s it.  I tried to join her college group as I know a lot of people with whom she goes to school.  I did not have a valid e-mail address, so I could not join.  I tried my company e-mail address, again no go.  I am sure my company e-mail address is correct.  Anyway, the ease of use with MySpace makes it much more appealing to me at present.  As more people I know grow passionate about Facebook, I may migrate.  As for networking, I think web 2.0 is about as social as it gets and LinkedIn for business is great.</p>
<p>Until next time&#8230;</p>
<p>Keith Porterfield</p>
<p>a Student of Sales</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
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