Comments on: Google PageRank Penalties For Network Blogs http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/ Business and Technology with Common Sense Thu, 24 May 2012 21:21:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4-beta4-20883 By: Joe http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43128 Joe Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:07:48 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43128 Now mines 1 Now mines 1

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43122 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43122 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43123 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43123 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43124 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43124 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43125 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43125 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43126 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43126 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: ThaiSEO http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43127 ThaiSEO Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:40:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43127 My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too My blog drop drop from a pagerank 4 to a pagerank 2 too

]]> By: Tony http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43121 Tony Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:36:31 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43121 See, my point is more that Google is going to start angling against any advertising that's not AdSense. What's next? Your banner ads are going to get you penalized because it makes for bad search results. Google is building its monopoly. One day its going to be you are either with Google or not. And those who aren't are going to find their sites removed from Google. See, my point is more that Google is going to start angling against any advertising that’s not AdSense. What’s next? Your banner ads are going to get you penalized because it makes for bad search results.

Google is building its monopoly. One day its going to be you are either with Google or not. And those who aren’t are going to find their sites removed from Google.

]]> By: Downloads http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43120 Downloads Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:36:56 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43120 This is the penalty of having one company ruling the world. Although the intention is always good, this nonstop-growing set of strict rules will make things even worse. Can you imagine in a couple of years the 90-page list of Dos and Donts? Scary. This is the penalty of having one company ruling the world. Although the intention is always good, this nonstop-growing set of strict rules will make things even worse. Can you imagine in a couple of years the 90-page list of Dos and Donts? Scary.

]]> By: kpaul.mallasch http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43119 kpaul.mallasch Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:49:28 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43119 Google needs to look at the big newspaper companies. The link pattern on Gannett and others is really incestous... -kpaul Google needs to look at the big newspaper companies. The link pattern on Gannett and others is really incestous…

-kpaul

]]> By: John http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43118 John Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:22:42 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43118 Awords is the biggest paid link and interlinking system out there. Millions of scraper adsense sites and parked domains that the average user clicks on because they are unaware of what kind of site it is. And half of the "adsense" sites link to each other. Yet, USEFULL blogs and sites are getting penalized. I LOVE interlinking. If I am on Blog 1 and see a story I am intersted in I will follow the link and read the story. That is the way the web is supposed to work. I think google is going about this all wrong. But what can you do when it is a 300lb gorilla. Awords is the biggest paid link and interlinking system out there.

Millions of scraper adsense sites and parked domains that the average user clicks on because they are unaware of what kind of site it is. And half of the “adsense” sites link to each other.

Yet, USEFULL blogs and sites are getting penalized. I LOVE interlinking. If I am on Blog 1 and see a story I am intersted in I will follow the link and read the story. That is the way the web is supposed to work.

I think google is going about this all wrong. But what can you do when it is a 300lb gorilla.

]]> By: Mike http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43117 Mike Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:05:28 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43117 This is all about Big G flexing their muscles, hitting some high profile sites and basically showing everyone that they rule the roost. "How dare you have the temerity to use an alternative advertising resource. We created AdSense, don't you know? It's perfectly good enough for you, young man, and if you think you can get away with earning a few dollars from someone else you've got another thing coming.." Well nuts to you, Google. Advertising networks will simply come up with an alternative metric to score pages for ad rates. Simple as that. This decrease in PR isn't going to stop me from using alternatives to AdSense and I hope it doesn't stop anyone else either. They like to give off the impression that this is all about paid links. It's not so stop treating us like idiots, Big G... This is all about Big G flexing their muscles, hitting some high profile sites and basically showing everyone that they rule the roost.

“How dare you have the temerity to use an alternative advertising resource. We created AdSense, don’t you know? It’s perfectly good enough for you, young man, and if you think you can get away with earning a few dollars from someone else you’ve got another thing coming..”

Well nuts to you, Google. Advertising networks will simply come up with an alternative metric to score pages for ad rates. Simple as that. This decrease in PR isn’t going to stop me from using alternatives to AdSense and I hope it doesn’t stop anyone else either.

They like to give off the impression that this is all about paid links. It’s not so stop treating us like idiots, Big G…

]]> By: Jim Bernatowicz http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43116 Jim Bernatowicz Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:49:15 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43116 I wonder... what will the long-term effect of "rel=nofollow" be on Google itself? I an increasing occurrence of sweeping, wholesale and automated edits of all external links in enormous content archives to append "rel=nofollow." Fast forward a few Google Dances... As the world hoards its page rank by employing automated "nofollow " appendage, I suspect the global "landscape" will evolve to look like millions of island sites, appearing unlinked to Google's algorithm. A true link passing page rank and a credible "vote" might be the exception, only coming from sister sites and legacy static HTML pages that are too labor intensive to edit. Jim I wonder… what will the long-term effect of “rel=nofollow” be on Google itself?

I an increasing occurrence of sweeping, wholesale and automated edits of all external links in enormous content archives to append “rel=nofollow.”

Fast forward a few Google Dances…

As the world hoards its page rank by employing automated “nofollow ” appendage, I suspect the global “landscape” will evolve to look like millions of island sites, appearing unlinked to Google’s algorithm.

A true link passing page rank and a credible “vote” might be the exception, only coming from sister sites and legacy static HTML pages that are too labor intensive to edit.

Jim

]]> By: Dave http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43115 Dave Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:53:51 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43115 "PR means nothing for readers. However it can affect ad revenue." I'm a bit confused. If you do not sell links, why would the drop in PR affect ad revenue? “PR means nothing for readers. However it can affect ad revenue.”

I’m a bit confused. If you do not sell links, why would the drop in PR affect ad revenue?

]]> By: Lucia Freitas http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43114 Lucia Freitas Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:21:31 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43114 Great way to go, Aaron. Here in Brazil blogger too are largely dependent on Google ads and the discussion isn't considering important things: people want our content just like Sheila says... I used to be PR 4 - and profit little from the blog. Loved your reflection: Either we give in to Google and let them dictate what we do and have the unenviable position of losing pagerank and possibly advertising dollars, or we take the stand that quality content is quality content regardless of Google and that our content will speak for itself. I've already made my choice: my content should speak for itself. Great way to go, Aaron. Here in Brazil blogger too are largely dependent on Google ads and the discussion isn’t considering important things: people want our content just like Sheila says…
I used to be PR 4 – and profit little from the blog. Loved your reflection: Either we give in to Google and let them dictate what we do and have the unenviable position of losing pagerank and possibly advertising dollars, or we take the stand that quality content is quality content regardless of Google and that our content will speak for itself.
I’ve already made my choice: my content should speak for itself.

]]> By: graywolf http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43113 graywolf Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:48:37 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43113 it's classic FUD whack a few high profile sites scare everyone else into compliance. Are you going to continue to be google's b*tch and let them tell you how to run your business ... especially when they are a competitior selling advertising it’s classic FUD whack a few high profile sites scare everyone else into compliance.

Are you going to continue to be google’s b*tch and let them tell you how to run your business … especially when they are a competitior selling advertising

]]> By: Jim Turner http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43112 Jim Turner Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:03:48 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43112 Perhaps we give Google too much power in this regard. Is it time to come up with a different metric or a system of measurement? I invite everyone on our show tomorrow and discuss this further with Aaron and myself and other experts. www.blogtalkradio.com/socialmediasphere Is it time to fight back against the big bad machine? Perhaps we give Google too much power in this regard. Is it time to come up with a different metric or a system of measurement? I invite everyone on our show tomorrow and discuss this further with Aaron and myself and other experts.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/socialmediasphere

Is it time to fight back against the big bad machine?

]]> By: Michael Bailey http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43111 Michael Bailey Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:27:38 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43111 Yeah, maybe it's time to get rid of the ads - I'm tired of landing in linkfarms anyhow. This is the problem with a free web - here's a "novel" idea - paid subscriptions for quality content. What? Then think of it like this? Paid magazine subscriptions have better content than those "free" industry trade-rags. Yeah, maybe it’s time to get rid of the ads – I’m tired of landing in linkfarms anyhow.

This is the problem with a free web – here’s a “novel” idea – paid subscriptions for quality content.

What? Then think of it like this? Paid magazine subscriptions have better content than those “free” industry trade-rags.

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43110 Aaron Brazell Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:44:31 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43110 William, what part of this line isn't clear: <blockquote>Either we give in to Google and let them dictate what we do and have the unenviable position of losing pagerank and possibly advertising dollars, or we take the stand that quality content is quality content regardless of Google and that our content will speak for itself.</blockquote> PR means nothing for readers. However it can affect ad revenue. William, what part of this line isn’t clear:

Either we give in to Google and let them dictate what we do and have the unenviable position of losing pagerank and possibly advertising dollars, or we take the stand that quality content is quality content regardless of Google and that our content will speak for itself.

PR means nothing for readers. However it can affect ad revenue.

]]> By: william smith http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43109 william smith Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:23:46 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43109 Aaron, We were talking back and forth on Twitter. I guess I don't see what you're so upset about. Like Sheila above, I could care less about what the PR of your site is. Maybe you do, but you haven't really justified why. I wrote an article about this. Click on my name in the link if you care to read it. Anyway, i think you write quality content. Ever stop to think that other people do too? Maybe their page rank went up at the expense of yours? I don't know - I just know that i will continue to read your site because I like the articles. I didn't find you through Google or any Google related property. Aaron,

We were talking back and forth on Twitter. I guess I don’t see what you’re so upset about. Like Sheila above, I could care less about what the PR of your site is. Maybe you do, but you haven’t really justified why.

I wrote an article about this. Click on my name in the link if you care to read it.

Anyway, i think you write quality content. Ever stop to think that other people do too? Maybe their page rank went up at the expense of yours? I don’t know – I just know that i will continue to read your site because I like the articles. I didn’t find you through Google or any Google related property.

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43108 Aaron Brazell Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:01:29 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43108 But Tony- This site, and many of the others who lost PR weren't selling text links. We've had that bloodbath earlier this month and I personally don't disagree with that particular update. THIS one on the other hand is asinine as people like myself and Brian Clark and Darren Rowse and the people at Engadget and others ARE producing valuable content that deserves all the weight and authority they <em>had</em>. But Tony-

This site, and many of the others who lost PR weren’t selling text links. We’ve had that bloodbath earlier this month and I personally don’t disagree with that particular update. THIS one on the other hand is asinine as people like myself and Brian Clark and Darren Rowse and the people at Engadget and others ARE producing valuable content that deserves all the weight and authority they had.

]]> By: Tony http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43107 Tony Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:53:50 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43107 It's a slippery slope. This is the same line as Google's take on selling Text Link Ads, and their engine or not, they are over the line. Google wants to control anything positive coming out of a link, earnings, link juice, etc. And they can leverage the power and brand of Google to "blackmail" webmasters to bow down to Google's way of thinking. Google's bread and butter is AdSense and selling Text Links eats into that, so now they can use the power to make selling links bad. And it's do what Google says or they will make you disappear. It's bad business and evil. It’s a slippery slope. This is the same line as Google’s take on selling Text Link Ads, and their engine or not, they are over the line. Google wants to control anything positive coming out of a link, earnings, link juice, etc. And they can leverage the power and brand of Google to “blackmail” webmasters to bow down to Google’s way of thinking. Google’s bread and butter is AdSense and selling Text Links eats into that, so now they can use the power to make selling links bad. And it’s do what Google says or they will make you disappear. It’s bad business and evil.

]]> By: Sheila Scarborough http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-43106 Sheila Scarborough Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:14:29 +0000 http://technosailor.com/2007/10/24/google-pagerank-penalties-for-network-blogs/#comment-43106 I don't give a rip about any site's Google Page Rank; I just want to read interesting, timely and well-written stuff, preferably by someone who interacts with his/her audience. We are smarter than the machine. Here's a thought: maybe selling ads is no longer a sustainable, sensible way to fund a business. I'm personally getting quite sick of the marketing drumbeat in my world; I pay for ad-free satellite radio & listen to public radio, I usually mute ads on TV, I rarely/never click ads on Web sites, I'm sick of magazines like "Vogue" that load down my mailbox with their ad-heavy issues and I pay to read "Salon" with fewer ads. If we didn't fund our businesses with ad revenue, would we care about Google Page Rank? Of course, if there was a simple alternative to ads we'd no doubt be using it, but I hope someone's thinking very hard about this before I become Amish. :) I don’t give a rip about any site’s Google Page Rank; I just want to read interesting, timely and well-written stuff, preferably by someone who interacts with his/her audience.

We are smarter than the machine.

Here’s a thought: maybe selling ads is no longer a sustainable, sensible way to fund a business.

I’m personally getting quite sick of the marketing drumbeat in my world; I pay for ad-free satellite radio & listen to public radio, I usually mute ads on TV, I rarely/never click ads on Web sites, I’m sick of magazines like “Vogue” that load down my mailbox with their ad-heavy issues and I pay to read “Salon” with fewer ads.

If we didn’t fund our businesses with ad revenue, would we care about Google Page Rank?

Of course, if there was a simple alternative to ads we’d no doubt be using it, but I hope someone’s thinking very hard about this before I become Amish. :)

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