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	<title>Comments on: How To Get an Angry Email From Me</title>
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		<title>By: UK</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2007/10/30/how-to-get-an-angry-email-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-209424</link>
		<dc:creator>UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron,

In my organization we do work with PR agencies. But clear guidelines are given to them about the campaigns and we used to monitor the responses from the affected clients. 

This email needs a lot of improvements. Thanks for this post, I\&#039;ll use this as an example in the upcoming discussions with our PR agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron,</p>
<p>In my organization we do work with PR agencies. But clear guidelines are given to them about the campaigns and we used to monitor the responses from the affected clients. </p>
<p>This email needs a lot of improvements. Thanks for this post, I\&#8217;ll use this as an example in the upcoming discussions with our PR agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jones</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2007/10/30/how-to-get-an-angry-email-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-141808</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in PR, too.  That pitch was way too long.  I don&#039;t read six paragraph e-mails from my mother, so why would anyone want to read one from a PR guy?

I&#039;ve always had success pitching media and bloggers by e-mail by first asking if they are interested in receiving a pitch on a specific product/topic in a brief e-mail.  

If they are interested, they let you know.  If not, they say no or ignore you (which also means no).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in PR, too.  That pitch was way too long.  I don&#8217;t read six paragraph e-mails from my mother, so why would anyone want to read one from a PR guy?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had success pitching media and bloggers by e-mail by first asking if they are interested in receiving a pitch on a specific product/topic in a brief e-mail.  </p>
<p>If they are interested, they let you know.  If not, they say no or ignore you (which also means no).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Hammer</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2007/10/30/how-to-get-an-angry-email-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-138379</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God forbid people want to make money and promote their stuff over the net. You don&#039;t like it? Don&#039;t look at it!

If I get mail I don&#039;t want, I throw it away.

And to get up on someone for doing their job? You need to chill.

No matter what job someone has there always has to be someone to complain about what they&#039;re doing.

I wonder what high respecting, non-soliciting, earth saving job you really have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God forbid people want to make money and promote their stuff over the net. You don&#8217;t like it? Don&#8217;t look at it!</p>
<p>If I get mail I don&#8217;t want, I throw it away.</p>
<p>And to get up on someone for doing their job? You need to chill.</p>
<p>No matter what job someone has there always has to be someone to complain about what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>I wonder what high respecting, non-soliciting, earth saving job you really have.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pepper</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2007/10/30/how-to-get-an-angry-email-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-137827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, Mr. Site Owner - what&#039;s the IP address for Seth?!? Oh, yah, Seth - those are pretty easy to find with comments, and not hard to track the people.

It&#039;s getting to be a sad story that PR is not moving. And, well, it&#039;s tiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, Mr. Site Owner &#8211; what&#8217;s the IP address for Seth?!? Oh, yah, Seth &#8211; those are pretty easy to find with comments, and not hard to track the people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s getting to be a sad story that PR is not moving. And, well, it&#8217;s tiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Allik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Allik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, another Topazer here. I heard Sarah Wurrey&#039;s utterz on &quot;Seth&quot; and just had to check this one out. 

&quot;Seth,&quot; are you for real? With all due respect, incompetence and arrogance are not generally a good mix of character attributes. Incompetence can be slightly endearing (sometimes) and arrogance can be deserved (occasionally) but when you combine the two, it isn&#039;t a good outcome no matter what. 

You need to get with the program, drink the Kool Aid, get on the bus, etc. -- if not for your &quot;personal growth&quot; at least for your job security. Things have changed. In the New Media World Order, you will be deservedly flamed unless you acknowledge the power and influence of the blogosphere. You have been warned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, another Topazer here. I heard Sarah Wurrey&#8217;s utterz on &#8220;Seth&#8221; and just had to check this one out. </p>
<p>&#8220;Seth,&#8221; are you for real? With all due respect, incompetence and arrogance are not generally a good mix of character attributes. Incompetence can be slightly endearing (sometimes) and arrogance can be deserved (occasionally) but when you combine the two, it isn&#8217;t a good outcome no matter what. </p>
<p>You need to get with the program, drink the Kool Aid, get on the bus, etc. &#8212; if not for your &#8220;personal growth&#8221; at least for your job security. Things have changed. In the New Media World Order, you will be deservedly flamed unless you acknowledge the power and influence of the blogosphere. You have been warned.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it shouldn&#039;t have been addressed to &quot;site owner.&quot; That said, I thought the pitch was pretty good and that&#039;s coming from ex-PR media specialist who&#039;s seen more than her fair share of crappy pitches over a decade. 

Two other thoughts to save you future frustrations: you might also want to tell this PR person what you want to be pitched in the future - if anything. If you don&#039;t want to be pitched by any PR people, why not put a graphic saying that on a sidebar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it shouldn&#8217;t have been addressed to &#8220;site owner.&#8221; That said, I thought the pitch was pretty good and that&#8217;s coming from ex-PR media specialist who&#8217;s seen more than her fair share of crappy pitches over a decade. </p>
<p>Two other thoughts to save you future frustrations: you might also want to tell this PR person what you want to be pitched in the future &#8211; if anything. If you don&#8217;t want to be pitched by any PR people, why not put a graphic saying that on a sidebar?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dugan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron - More PR people than you realize feel your pain and agree with you. We&#039;re just as tired of hearing our industry railed on due to the laziness of its minority.

So I am trying to do something about it, put up or shut up right?

The Bad Pitch Blog is trying to educate and entertain folks. We out some of the offenders as you do here. We also try and point out the right way to conduct media relations.

The best response we&#039;ve gotten so far has been from academia -- professors and students. So we might have to wait a few years before we see a huge difference. All too often, the people we out are too far gone to figure it out. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron &#8211; More PR people than you realize feel your pain and agree with you. We&#8217;re just as tired of hearing our industry railed on due to the laziness of its minority.</p>
<p>So I am trying to do something about it, put up or shut up right?</p>
<p>The Bad Pitch Blog is trying to educate and entertain folks. We out some of the offenders as you do here. We also try and point out the right way to conduct media relations.</p>
<p>The best response we&#8217;ve gotten so far has been from academia &#8212; professors and students. So we might have to wait a few years before we see a huge difference. All too often, the people we out are too far gone to figure it out. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: PixelFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>PixelFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To give them their due, they seem to have improved slightly since the Scalzi analysis. The tone seems less inconsistent. Would still be nice if they could do a little more research on your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give them their due, they seem to have improved slightly since the Scalzi analysis. The tone seems less inconsistent. Would still be nice if they could do a little more research on your site.</p>
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		<title>By: PixelFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>PixelFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here through Sarah Wurrey, and I thought the name Guerilla PR sounded familiar. Turns out one of my favourite bloggers, John Scalzi, had a run-in with them sometime back. They sent him some PR detritus, hoping he&#039;d schill for them. Instead, he took apart the letter and compared it to a more successful PR plea.

http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/004352.html

Also, if you&#039;re interested in other PR campaigns that went astray, as well as the perils of astroturfing, you can generally find a lot of info on astroturfing at the blog, Making Light. (Teresa takes apart astroturfers with glee. Just google &quot;Making Light astroturf&quot; for fun and hijinks.)

Here the Making Light crowd discuss the woefully misdirected campaign for Michel Gondry&#039;s The Science of Sleep.

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008066.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here through Sarah Wurrey, and I thought the name Guerilla PR sounded familiar. Turns out one of my favourite bloggers, John Scalzi, had a run-in with them sometime back. They sent him some PR detritus, hoping he&#8217;d schill for them. Instead, he took apart the letter and compared it to a more successful PR plea.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/004352.html" >http://www.scalzi.com/whatever/004352.html</a></p>
<p>Also, if you&#8217;re interested in other PR campaigns that went astray, as well as the perils of astroturfing, you can generally find a lot of info on astroturfing at the blog, Making Light. (Teresa takes apart astroturfers with glee. Just google &#8220;Making Light astroturf&#8221; for fun and hijinks.)</p>
<p>Here the Making Light crowd discuss the woefully misdirected campaign for Michel Gondry&#8217;s The Science of Sleep.</p>
<p><a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008066.html" >http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008066.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2007/10/30/how-to-get-an-angry-email-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-137274</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory-

I appreciate your sentiment, but... yeah. My network is speaking for itself here. I have nothing to add that I haven&#039;t already here and in my email to you. Welcome to the wild west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory-</p>
<p>I appreciate your sentiment, but&#8230; yeah. My network is speaking for itself here. I have nothing to add that I haven&#8217;t already here and in my email to you. Welcome to the wild west.</p>
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