Comments on: Apples and Oranges, the Rise and Fall of Women Bloggers http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/ Web Technology and Real Life Merge Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:16:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-alpha By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245530 Aaron Brazell Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:26:50 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245530 ....and you're doing a fine job, Wendy. :) ….and you're doing a fine job, Wendy. :)

]]> By: Wendy Piersall http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245529 Wendy Piersall Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:10:32 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245529 Aaron,<br><br>I found the response to your post fascinating. I think everyone has made some valid points.<br><br>Interestingly, I wrote a very similar post in my first year of blogging, about being a woman vying to get onto the Techorati top 100 - at the time there were 11 women on that list out of 100. <br><br>Do I think there is bias? Yes. Do I think I can do anything directly about it? No.<br><br>My conclusion was the same as yours - though I will admit it was worded very differently (that's because I'm a chick, ya know). <b>If we buy into the idea that this bias can hold us back, then it ISN'T the bias that holds us back - <i>we're holding ourselves back</i>. <b/><br><br>So the only way I have found to move forward is to continue to plug on and work to dominate my niche and make a difference as much as possible. I'll never be a TechCrunch - I have no desire to be that kind of place. I DO want to have as much traffic as TechCrunch - which means I need to 'play the game' like everyone else - and if I come up against any obstacles, my only responsibility is get around them, not to focus on the fact that they are there in the first place. <br><br>*waves to GeekMommy, Queen of Spain and CityMama*</b></b> Aaron,

I found the response to your post fascinating. I think everyone has made some valid points.

Interestingly, I wrote a very similar post in my first year of blogging, about being a woman vying to get onto the Techorati top 100 – at the time there were 11 women on that list out of 100.

Do I think there is bias? Yes. Do I think I can do anything directly about it? No.

My conclusion was the same as yours – though I will admit it was worded very differently (that's because I'm a chick, ya know). If we buy into the idea that this bias can hold us back, then it ISN'T the bias that holds us back – we're holding ourselves back.

So the only way I have found to move forward is to continue to plug on and work to dominate my niche and make a difference as much as possible. I'll never be a TechCrunch – I have no desire to be that kind of place. I DO want to have as much traffic as TechCrunch – which means I need to 'play the game' like everyone else – and if I come up against any obstacles, my only responsibility is get around them, not to focus on the fact that they are there in the first place.

*waves to GeekMommy, Queen of Spain and CityMama*

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245500 Aaron Brazell Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:10:08 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245500 I'd pretty much tell them the same thing. I'd pretty much tell them the same thing.

]]> By: qthrul http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245499 qthrul Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:04:41 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245499 Not to be obtuse, I am being serious, your classification of man and woman does seem to omit that there does exist various transgender bloggers as well and there is likely to be a growing number of transgender bloggers. What would you tell that blogger group? <br><br>Or, taking gender identity out of the mix completely, what would you tell any emerging blogger group that does not presently hold a dominant presence in terms of visibility, sheer numbers, or market share? Not to be obtuse, I am being serious, your classification of man and woman does seem to omit that there does exist various transgender bloggers as well and there is likely to be a growing number of transgender bloggers. What would you tell that blogger group?

Or, taking gender identity out of the mix completely, what would you tell any emerging blogger group that does not presently hold a dominant presence in terms of visibility, sheer numbers, or market share?

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245490 Aaron Brazell Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:54:52 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245490 My entire blog is based around telling people what I think they should do. Women bloggers are not special in this regard. If you don't feel like it applies, then ignore it. Fighting with me of all people over semantics doesn't help the cause. I'm already on your side. Don't shoot allies, you know? My entire blog is based around telling people what I think they should do. Women bloggers are not special in this regard. If you don't feel like it applies, then ignore it. Fighting with me of all people over semantics doesn't help the cause. I'm already on your side. Don't shoot allies, you know?

]]> By: Foolery http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245491 Foolery Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:30:11 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245491 I am not a tech blogger ("how does this thing turn on, anyway?"), I don't consider myself a Mommyblogger, I am just a blogger. With a small readership and an as-yet unmonetized blog (probably forever unmonetized). I am female, but let's not bring that into it. I agree with your post completely, Aaron, and appreciate your comments. BlogHer holds no interest for me because it is gender based, and I avoid all things gender-based. I'll just keep on keepin' on, spouting drivel on my own terms.<br><br>-- Laurie @ Foolery I am not a tech blogger (“how does this thing turn on, anyway?”), I don't consider myself a Mommyblogger, I am just a blogger. With a small readership and an as-yet unmonetized blog (probably forever unmonetized). I am female, but let's not bring that into it. I agree with your post completely, Aaron, and appreciate your comments. BlogHer holds no interest for me because it is gender based, and I avoid all things gender-based. I'll just keep on keepin' on, spouting drivel on my own terms.

– Laurie @ Foolery

]]> By: Erin, queenofspain http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245489 Erin, queenofspain Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:29:14 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245489 Sigh. Perhaps its the idea that we silly women folk need advice? Have you offered your advice to other entire segments of bloggers? Maybe that's where the disconnect is for me. If this were a 'flame wars are dumb and fighting valley wag is even dumber' post to all bloggers that's one thing. But maybe it's the idea that we need to be told the rules from those who feel they have been their longer and know better. Maybe, just maybe, that is where I have issues. <br><br>Or maybe I'm just in a bad mood and taking this all the wrong way. Sigh. Perhaps its the idea that we silly women folk need advice? Have you offered your advice to other entire segments of bloggers? Maybe that's where the disconnect is for me. If this were a 'flame wars are dumb and fighting valley wag is even dumber' post to all bloggers that's one thing. But maybe it's the idea that we need to be told the rules from those who feel they have been their longer and know better. Maybe, just maybe, that is where I have issues.

Or maybe I'm just in a bad mood and taking this all the wrong way.

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245488 Aaron Brazell Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:13:12 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245488 Let me see about optimizations. Load isn't too bad where I sit. Let me see about optimizations. Load isn't too bad where I sit.

]]> By: qthrul http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245487 qthrul Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:07:56 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245487 Completely OT: I hate to do this because I know it brings you revenue but... I'm going to have to start viewing your site with Adblock enabled. Otherwise, it takes 10-12 seconds to load a page for all of your ads.* hits (only 4 yes, but the site crawls). Completely OT: I hate to do this because I know it brings you revenue but… I'm going to have to start viewing your site with Adblock enabled. Otherwise, it takes 10-12 seconds to load a page for all of your ads.* hits (only 4 yes, but the site crawls).

]]> By: Aaron Brazell http://technosailor.com/2008/08/21/apples-and-oranges-the-rise-and-fall-of-women-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-245486 Aaron Brazell Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:00:12 +0000 http://technosailor.com/?p=4306#comment-245486 Disqus is debugging an issue that is causing comments to not appear on the<br>blog for awhile. They are logged in the system and will appear eventually.<br>While they fix that, feel free to carry on the conversation directly at<br><a href="http://technosailor.disqus.com">http://technosailor.disqus.com</a> - all those comments eventually show here. Disqus is debugging an issue that is causing comments to not appear on the
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