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		<title>By: Joel McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video, it&#039;s incredible reviewing the statistics regarding how much the internet has affected so many industries. It has opened amazing doors to innovators and shut doors on procrastinators!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video, it&#8217;s incredible reviewing the statistics regarding how much the internet has affected so many industries. It has opened amazing doors to innovators and shut doors on procrastinators!</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Dozier</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252561</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Dozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Web contractor for the Army, I&#039;ve gotten tummy aches over this very problem. I see contracting companies (including my own) trying to profit off of the shiny buzz words, instead of putting mission of our ever-important democracy first. 

(Fine, fine, you&#039;re a contracting company. The &quot;bottom line&quot; is money for you. I get it. At least TRY to ACT sincere. You&#039;ll get more clients that way. But this my own naive personal problem.)

The real, &lt;strong&gt;professional&lt;/strong&gt; problem is what you touched on in the beginning: the Tech community adopts first. The MarCom community (which I am a member of) adopts next. The same thing happened with Web &quot;1.0,&quot; and some of us, especially in the government, are still in that battle. Who owns the Web site - the infrastructure dudes, or the guys with lots of stuff to say? 

Right now about half of us MarCom-ers are &lt;strong&gt;obsessed&lt;/strong&gt; with the &quot;2.0.&quot; But the real interesting thing about these &quot;new&quot; tools is that they can be used anywhere! They&#039;re for everyone! These tools can improve almost anyone&#039;s job, I believe/hope.

I propose that instead of us Web/Tech/MarCom people trying to &quot;own&quot; &quot;2.0&quot; (and/or sell it  to others who are slower to buy-in), we slowly educate &lt;strong&gt;everyone&lt;/strong&gt; (especially non-Tech/MarCom professionals) about being open to trying new, more efficient tools. People in my offices still look at me wide-eyed and jaw-dropped when I mention RSS feeds for goodnessake. Make your lives easier people!

Let&#039;s evangelize like the good obsessed MarCom-ers we are. But we have to communicate with strategy: how can we help our audience help themselves? What are they trying to accomplish? And let&#039;s not box ourselves into a narrow world of Tech and MarCom. Let&#039;s open our conferences up. Let&#039;s all be friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Web contractor for the Army, I&#8217;ve gotten tummy aches over this very problem. I see contracting companies (including my own) trying to profit off of the shiny buzz words, instead of putting mission of our ever-important democracy first. </p>
<p>(Fine, fine, you&#8217;re a contracting company. The &#8220;bottom line&#8221; is money for you. I get it. At least TRY to ACT sincere. You&#8217;ll get more clients that way. But this my own naive personal problem.)</p>
<p>The real, <strong>professional</strong> problem is what you touched on in the beginning: the Tech community adopts first. The MarCom community (which I am a member of) adopts next. The same thing happened with Web &#8220;1.0,&#8221; and some of us, especially in the government, are still in that battle. Who owns the Web site &#8211; the infrastructure dudes, or the guys with lots of stuff to say? </p>
<p>Right now about half of us MarCom-ers are <strong>obsessed</strong> with the &#8220;2.0.&#8221; But the real interesting thing about these &#8220;new&#8221; tools is that they can be used anywhere! They&#8217;re for everyone! These tools can improve almost anyone&#8217;s job, I believe/hope.</p>
<p>I propose that instead of us Web/Tech/MarCom people trying to &#8220;own&#8221; &#8220;2.0&#8243; (and/or sell it  to others who are slower to buy-in), we slowly educate <strong>everyone</strong> (especially non-Tech/MarCom professionals) about being open to trying new, more efficient tools. People in my offices still look at me wide-eyed and jaw-dropped when I mention RSS feeds for goodnessake. Make your lives easier people!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s evangelize like the good obsessed MarCom-ers we are. But we have to communicate with strategy: how can we help our audience help themselves? What are they trying to accomplish? And let&#8217;s not box ourselves into a narrow world of Tech and MarCom. Let&#8217;s open our conferences up. Let&#8217;s all be friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252509</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James: One of the reasons why the US strawberry is not leading in the fruit bowl is because of a lack of broadband access that other countries found the willpower to surpass years ago. Until every American household can access the internet at better-than-dialup speeds, the United States will never be a leader in the technology you and I wish it could do.

Maybe I&#039;m wrong, but everything I read that compares the U.S. to other countries says I&#039;m right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: One of the reasons why the US strawberry is not leading in the fruit bowl is because of a lack of broadband access that other countries found the willpower to surpass years ago. Until every American household can access the internet at better-than-dialup speeds, the United States will never be a leader in the technology you and I wish it could do.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong, but everything I read that compares the U.S. to other countries says I&#8217;m right.</p>
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		<title>By: James Pickett</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Pickett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of this is way over my head at this point. I simply have a hard time understanding why the corporation that was the godfather of the internet, the developer of ARPAnet, our US cheese, isn&#039;t still the forerunner of the technology to begin with. As a matter of fact, I have a hard time understanding much of anything about what happens anymore, life seems to have disappeared into a cloud of money and politics. Politicians care more about money than politics, and corporations seem to be adopting political positions of power.

Web 2.0, or government 2.0... The sad truth is that democracy has become a gold plated strawberry that has rotted out from under its shiny shell and they will never listen to the people, unless the people have billions to leverage against them. The current climate assures the people have less than ever, to use as leverage. Government 2.0, however seems like a great way for politicians to spend taxpayer dollars, at corporations that fuel their campaigns and line their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of this is way over my head at this point. I simply have a hard time understanding why the corporation that was the godfather of the internet, the developer of ARPAnet, our US cheese, isn&#8217;t still the forerunner of the technology to begin with. As a matter of fact, I have a hard time understanding much of anything about what happens anymore, life seems to have disappeared into a cloud of money and politics. Politicians care more about money than politics, and corporations seem to be adopting political positions of power.</p>
<p>Web 2.0, or government 2.0&#8230; The sad truth is that democracy has become a gold plated strawberry that has rotted out from under its shiny shell and they will never listen to the people, unless the people have billions to leverage against them. The current climate assures the people have less than ever, to use as leverage. Government 2.0, however seems like a great way for politicians to spend taxpayer dollars, at corporations that fuel their campaigns and line their pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Greer</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252501</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Greer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government should be engaging the general public online the same way any company would.  After all, we pay for them and they are our employees.

I recently met an Austin City Councilman who is running for mayor about this very issue.  His staffers wanted to build a 2.0 community for people to submit ideas for the city.  Hi, that&#039;s called the internet.  I told him that the best way to BUILD a community is to start by SUPPORTING it.  

Marketing, including social media marketing, isn&#039;t always blathering on to customers.  It&#039;s LISTENING. It&#039;s knowing what to anticipate based on what you hear.   I would love if the government stopped listening to Exxon and Monsanto lobbyists and started listening to the people.  We cannot afford to have our government hijacked by corporate interests that hurt the general welfare of our nation.  If it costs them a little money in the form of salaries to actually have people listen to the general public for once by engaging with people online, I&#039;ll help pay it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government should be engaging the general public online the same way any company would.  After all, we pay for them and they are our employees.</p>
<p>I recently met an Austin City Councilman who is running for mayor about this very issue.  His staffers wanted to build a 2.0 community for people to submit ideas for the city.  Hi, that&#8217;s called the internet.  I told him that the best way to BUILD a community is to start by SUPPORTING it.  </p>
<p>Marketing, including social media marketing, isn&#8217;t always blathering on to customers.  It&#8217;s LISTENING. It&#8217;s knowing what to anticipate based on what you hear.   I would love if the government stopped listening to Exxon and Monsanto lobbyists and started listening to the people.  We cannot afford to have our government hijacked by corporate interests that hurt the general welfare of our nation.  If it costs them a little money in the form of salaries to actually have people listen to the general public for once by engaging with people online, I&#8217;ll help pay it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Baker</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252494</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we will see one of those conferences soon enough. 

In all, I think that the Intelligence Community is one of the leaders in Government in embracing open source technologies and Enterprise 2.0 as a best practice, but this was the first I had heard the term Intelligence 2.0 in the last 4 years in which wikis and blogs have been introduced as a better way to collaborate. Thank goodness no one suggested it or I am sure it would have stuck. 

Its more like replacing existing processes and not improving on the old throwing good money after bad. A core value that we are still learning, but since most of the community is shielded from the &quot;Web 2.0 world&quot;, we can focus on the mission and not the buzz words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we will see one of those conferences soon enough. </p>
<p>In all, I think that the Intelligence Community is one of the leaders in Government in embracing open source technologies and Enterprise 2.0 as a best practice, but this was the first I had heard the term Intelligence 2.0 in the last 4 years in which wikis and blogs have been introduced as a better way to collaborate. Thank goodness no one suggested it or I am sure it would have stuck. </p>
<p>Its more like replacing existing processes and not improving on the old throwing good money after bad. A core value that we are still learning, but since most of the community is shielded from the &#8220;Web 2.0 world&#8221;, we can focus on the mission and not the buzz words.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Livingston</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252464</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, right on.  Any organization, government or not needs to look at their mission and whether or not they are doing this for the right reason. Or because everyone of their executive pals says they should, so an iPhone app is built... for no good reason.  Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, right on.  Any organization, government or not needs to look at their mission and whether or not they are doing this for the right reason. Or because everyone of their executive pals says they should, so an iPhone app is built&#8230; for no good reason.  Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Dickover</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252462</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Dickover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree with the comment that there is both a desire on the part of some to &quot;just do the web 2.0 thing&quot;, and that the same solution doesn&#039;t work for everyone.  That said,  I think those really working these issues aren&#039;t focused on Web 2.0, they are focused on enabling transparency, participation and collaboration.  The challenges are many, some of which involve barriers to implementing social software type things - hence a good bit of discussions on the topic. .  Just to list a few:

 - Policy barriers prevent deliberative, but non-authoritative conversations between govt and public groups (be it govt to citizen, govt to supplier base, etc.).  We have these conversations all the time on the phone, email and F2F, but can&#039;t have them online. 
 - The Paperwork Reduction Act was written in 1980 (updated in 1995 by Newt, which included the really edgy dewey decimal system called GILS), and creates a 4-6 month delay at best for doing the simplest participatory approach on the web. 
 - Nobody agrees upon what to do about records management policies for wikis, blogs, etc.  How do you determine your disposal schedule for a wiki page or blog post?  A wiki page is never final, for instance (my contention is that these are both work products, and thus should not be considered &quot;essential transactions of the agency&quot; and thus, not records).
 - privacy concerns are magnified in looking at a participatory web.  For the agency, this means they potentially need to conduct a privacy impact assessment for each site, adhere to higher level information assurance certs for the server, etc.  Bottom line, the barrier to entry currently blocks many potentially valuable efforts.
 - Information Assurance policies (which are often valuable and necessary) have significantly impacted options for operational performance when looking at interactions with the public.  Waivers are often necessary, but hard to get granted.

I could go on with the barriers, but suffice to say that even if an agency finds a very valuable need that could be addressed with a social software solution, currently they most often are unable to implement it.   But regarding the goals set forth in the transparency and open govt memo, we can debate the merits of this, but I think a very strong case can be made that these type things are necessary.  As a for instance, citizen involvement in the policy making process is currently both codified and not very well understood or implemented. Clearly some changes are required here. 

Bottom line, while I absolutely agree that there&#039;s lots of noise, the goal should be to craft a directive that removes the barriers, sets the vision and responsibilities, and allows for agencies to take advantage of the tools that most help them while opening up the process of governing to allow mass collaboration-style imput.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree with the comment that there is both a desire on the part of some to &#8220;just do the web 2.0 thing&#8221;, and that the same solution doesn&#8217;t work for everyone.  That said,  I think those really working these issues aren&#8217;t focused on Web 2.0, they are focused on enabling transparency, participation and collaboration.  The challenges are many, some of which involve barriers to implementing social software type things &#8211; hence a good bit of discussions on the topic. .  Just to list a few:</p>
<p> &#8211; Policy barriers prevent deliberative, but non-authoritative conversations between govt and public groups (be it govt to citizen, govt to supplier base, etc.).  We have these conversations all the time on the phone, email and F2F, but can&#8217;t have them online.<br />
 &#8211; The Paperwork Reduction Act was written in 1980 (updated in 1995 by Newt, which included the really edgy dewey decimal system called GILS), and creates a 4-6 month delay at best for doing the simplest participatory approach on the web.<br />
 &#8211; Nobody agrees upon what to do about records management policies for wikis, blogs, etc.  How do you determine your disposal schedule for a wiki page or blog post?  A wiki page is never final, for instance (my contention is that these are both work products, and thus should not be considered &#8220;essential transactions of the agency&#8221; and thus, not records).<br />
 &#8211; privacy concerns are magnified in looking at a participatory web.  For the agency, this means they potentially need to conduct a privacy impact assessment for each site, adhere to higher level information assurance certs for the server, etc.  Bottom line, the barrier to entry currently blocks many potentially valuable efforts.<br />
 &#8211; Information Assurance policies (which are often valuable and necessary) have significantly impacted options for operational performance when looking at interactions with the public.  Waivers are often necessary, but hard to get granted.</p>
<p>I could go on with the barriers, but suffice to say that even if an agency finds a very valuable need that could be addressed with a social software solution, currently they most often are unable to implement it.   But regarding the goals set forth in the transparency and open govt memo, we can debate the merits of this, but I think a very strong case can be made that these type things are necessary.  As a for instance, citizen involvement in the policy making process is currently both codified and not very well understood or implemented. Clearly some changes are required here. </p>
<p>Bottom line, while I absolutely agree that there&#8217;s lots of noise, the goal should be to craft a directive that removes the barriers, sets the vision and responsibilities, and allows for agencies to take advantage of the tools that most help them while opening up the process of governing to allow mass collaboration-style imput.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Brazell</title>
		<link>http://technosailor.com/2009/03/07/missional-government-20/comment-page-1/#comment-252457</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Brazell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: Clearly the people who are close to the matter understand this (sometimes), but most of the chit chat comes from people who are not close to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: Clearly the people who are close to the matter understand this (sometimes), but most of the chit chat comes from people who are not close to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Primeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Primeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a government employee who is a bit behind the curve on Web 2.0, Government 2.0, or whatever else we call it, I greatly appreciate this type of commentary.  I&#039;m a bit surprised by how many government agencies at all levels are experimenting with Government 2.0 solutions.  But, you&#039;re right to point out that this may be a solution to a problem that doesn&#039;t exist.  Government should facilitate communication with its constituents, but agencies should be aware of if and how Gov 2.0 solutions will promote their missions.  Are constituents really looking to Twitter, Facebook, etc. for information about their government?  In the area of promoting citizen participation and effective government programs, Gov 2.0 solutions may prove useful, but they should only be a piece of a larger communication strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a government employee who is a bit behind the curve on Web 2.0, Government 2.0, or whatever else we call it, I greatly appreciate this type of commentary.  I&#8217;m a bit surprised by how many government agencies at all levels are experimenting with Government 2.0 solutions.  But, you&#8217;re right to point out that this may be a solution to a problem that doesn&#8217;t exist.  Government should facilitate communication with its constituents, but agencies should be aware of if and how Gov 2.0 solutions will promote their missions.  Are constituents really looking to Twitter, Facebook, etc. for information about their government?  In the area of promoting citizen participation and effective government programs, Gov 2.0 solutions may prove useful, but they should only be a piece of a larger communication strategy.</p>
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